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>> well, you know, my assessment is that if i were china and i was in the economic position that china's in and i was in a position of where i have to look after my global security interests, i would consider building an aircraft carrier. and i might consider building several aircraft carriers. so the real question is whether we should be concerned with them or not. like any other country that builds aircraft carriers is whether or not those types of platforms will be successfully integrated into a global security environment that's a peaceful one. and they have a role in maintaining the peaceful global security environment. if the issue is that they're not part of that global security environment, then i think we have to be concerned about that. >> so -- [inaudible] >> well, i think we're, we're hopeful that they're part of the security environment, and we're doing everything we can possible with our, with the chinese at least on the mil to mil to try to bring them into the security environment in a way that's already fairly mature globally, in a way that they are productive part of tha
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in china that make the products. several contract workers jumped to their deaths rather than continue working in china. after media reports, apple began to improve conditions. >> they love the computers but we were talking about that over dinner and saying, you know, i don't know. it's not conscious consumerism which is what we're looking at. where is your money going, what is it supporting? people jumping off buildings? >> reporter: made in america may be an emerging trend but apple isn't the first. its rival google announced last summer that its new media streaming device called the nexus q is made in the u.s. speculation is rampant about what computer and where in the u.s. apple will manufacture its former assembly plant in elk grove one possibility. although some see apple's decision as a public relations move, one user says it's right for the times. >> i hope it's something tangible. this is also for the stakeholders. people on the ground actually working on the apple phones. >> reporter: low wages and low fuel
in china that make the products. several contract workers jumped to their deaths rather than continue working in china. after media reports, apple began to improve conditions. >> they love the computers but we were talking about that over dinner and saying, you know, i don't know. it's not conscious consumerism which is what we're looking at. where is your money going, what is it supporting? people jumping off buildings? >> reporter: made in america may be an emerging trend but...
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the company will spend $100 million to shift production from china. apple originally made its computers in the u.s. but began outsourcing in the mid-1990's. t mobile will begin selling apple's iphone next year. it will become the last of the four largest carriers to offer the best selling device. analysts say adding the iphone may help t mobile lure more customers to long-term contracts and hold on to more subscribers. people are still loving the iphone, even with the dom nance of the samsung galaxy starting to take over. >> except mike. >> and derek, hello. >> who's learning. >> they're all good. >> somebody will have it under their tree i'm sure. >>> two months after montgomery county repaired a pothole riddled street, a utility company announced plans to dig it up again. >> don't you hate that? 9news returns in two minutes with more on that story. plus, your weather first. >>> good morning. welcome back to 9news now. it is 4:44 on friday. now it's a yellow alert day which means what? >> well, we have the yellow alert because that moisture is moving
the company will spend $100 million to shift production from china. apple originally made its computers in the u.s. but began outsourcing in the mid-1990's. t mobile will begin selling apple's iphone next year. it will become the last of the four largest carriers to offer the best selling device. analysts say adding the iphone may help t mobile lure more customers to long-term contracts and hold on to more subscribers. people are still loving the iphone, even with the dom nance of the samsung...
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china you know china get paid seven twenty five five fifty an hour that's below the federal minimum wage how do they how do they pull that off well basically they have there's a lot them for car washing cars washers where they had they supposed at the tip to the to the paycheck to make it look like seven twenty five but what they doing is the force of the you know they put him on it it's the same we make him eight hundred dollars a ticket with only making fifty dollars a week until it's wow do you do they do they report that to the i.r.s. or just to you i mean how does how do they how do they get away with that. i really don't know so it's that they just have very good bookkeepers of him like that so so some of the other people that you were on strike essentially with today are out protesting with. any other stories that you heard that you thought were interesting . yeah her leg stories from montana workers who would walk fifty blocks to their house because seventeen if i was and is enough for the event it's not enough for the food to feed their families and it is very sad that people ha
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conversation today, running from ad campaign assault from samsung, to the amount of business they do in china, and why can't those jobs be here. why can't you be a made in america company? >> you know, this iphone, as a matter of fact, the engine in here is made in america. and not only are the engines made in america, but engines are made in america that are exported. the glass on this phone is made in kentucky. so we have been working for years on doing more and more in the united states. next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> let's say our constitution was a little different and barack obama called you in tomorrow and said get everybody out of china, and do whatever you have to do. make these, make everything you make in the united states, what would that do to the price of this device? >> honestly, it is not so much about price, it is about the skills, et cetera. over time, there are skills that are associated with manufacturing that have left the u.s. not necessarily people, but the education, the ability to produce them. >> that is sad, how do we ge
conversation today, running from ad campaign assault from samsung, to the amount of business they do in china, and why can't those jobs be here. why can't you be a made in america company? >> you know, this iphone, as a matter of fact, the engine in here is made in america. and not only are the engines made in america, but engines are made in america that are exported. the glass on this phone is made in kentucky. so we have been working for years on doing more and more in the united...
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they cited a drop in exports stemming from a territorial dispute with china. the bank officials say southeast asian economies are supported by solid domestic demand. they added the countries are relatively unaffected by the debt woes in europe. >>> as if to back up the ad bcs's projection, japan's economy remained out of steam in october. the latest key economic indicator fell for the seventh straight month. the cabinet office says the coincidence index of the economy ticked down 0.9 points from september to 90.6. the index tracks the current state of the economy and reflects activities like industrial output and employment. government officials trace the decline to the global economic slowdown. they said shipments of tvs and some other products suffered during the month. they downgraded their assessment of the economy to worsening for the first time since march 2009. >>> the operator of the fukushima daiichi nuclear plant has released information about the doses of radiation workers were exposed to at the plant. tokyo electric power company had earlier submit
they cited a drop in exports stemming from a territorial dispute with china. the bank officials say southeast asian economies are supported by solid domestic demand. they added the countries are relatively unaffected by the debt woes in europe. >>> as if to back up the ad bcs's projection, japan's economy remained out of steam in october. the latest key economic indicator fell for the seventh straight month. the cabinet office says the coincidence index of the economy ticked down 0.9...
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. >>> apple fans, did you know all your apple l products are made in china. you may have not that but it's about -- known that but it's about to change. they will start assembling one of their mass computer models here in the usa. analysts are calling this a big move. >> for apple l to step out and say this is something they want to do, they want to manufacture here in the united states, it's a big deal. and it's a big differentiator for this country. >> the plan did make apple products before the company moved production overseas. >>> zynga is a leader in virtual poker but it wants to get into real money gambling. they filed an application with the nevada gaming parole board, a process that could take up 18 moments. shares rose 17% after that announcement. >>> encouraging news on diet and breast cancer. micro nutrients found in fruits and vegetables have cancer fighting properties. women who eat fresh produce may reduce their risk. there is evidence that the micro nutrients keep tumors from growing as well. there's new evidence that pro teen can help reduce
. >>> apple fans, did you know all your apple l products are made in china. you may have not that but it's about -- known that but it's about to change. they will start assembling one of their mass computer models here in the usa. analysts are calling this a big move. >> for apple l to step out and say this is something they want to do, they want to manufacture here in the united states, it's a big deal. and it's a big differentiator for this country. >> the plan did make...
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what's happening in china and japan is not any help. then you add on top of it what's coming out of washington. i don't think you should get your hopes up about figuring it out before the end of this year. i think there's a pretty deept chance we go over the cliff and then try to sort it out in the beginning of the year. >> lovely. >> joe, when did 146,000 jobs become good? have we become so pessimistic -- have our expectations come so low we're cheering 146,000 when we should be well over 200? >> plus the downward revisions for the previous two months. >> although, those revisions were almost all in government. mandy makes a good point. 150,000 a month, which has been the average over the past is a months or so, is not great. if this was a normal recovery, we'd be growing at 4% instead of 2 on gdp. employment would be well over 250. however, the good news in today's report was if you look at the household survey, there was clearly a hurricane effect in these numbers. we might actually have printed over 200 absent hurricane sandy. i wou
what's happening in china and japan is not any help. then you add on top of it what's coming out of washington. i don't think you should get your hopes up about figuring it out before the end of this year. i think there's a pretty deept chance we go over the cliff and then try to sort it out in the beginning of the year. >> lovely. >> joe, when did 146,000 jobs become good? have we become so pessimistic -- have our expectations come so low we're cheering 146,000 when we should be...
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over the years, apple has become known for having its products made overseas, most notably in china. you can see the whole interview on rock center with brian williams tonight at 10:00 right here on nbc 4. >> last minute shoppers rejoice. macy's famous one-day sale can last 48 hours. the retailer says it plans to keep all the stores open nationwide beginning at 7:00 a.m. on friday, december 21st, through 7:00 a.m. on sunday, december 23rd. in previous years, macy's extended hours through christmas at some of its stores. this is the first time the retailer will extend hours at all 800 locations. if you're going to wait until the last minute, you know you can go there. you can spend the entire weekend there. >> it's going to be a tough decision, shop or sleep. >> on this schedule, sleep is premium. >> stay with us. news 4 today continues right now at 5:00 a.m. >>> breaking news right now, a tsunami wave hits japan following a powerful earthquake this morning. >>> plus a metro bus driver under investigation after a passenger reports him reading behind the wheel. good morning, everyone.
over the years, apple has become known for having its products made overseas, most notably in china. you can see the whole interview on rock center with brian williams tonight at 10:00 right here on nbc 4. >> last minute shoppers rejoice. macy's famous one-day sale can last 48 hours. the retailer says it plans to keep all the stores open nationwide beginning at 7:00 a.m. on friday, december 21st, through 7:00 a.m. on sunday, december 23rd. in previous years, macy's extended hours through...
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the tech stocks that led the stock market said it will move some of its mass computer production from china to the u.s. it accounts for less than 20% of apple's business. the rest is from ipod and ipad production. one factor may be that tiny labor costs are rising much faster than u.s. wages. and the securities and exchange commission is investigating netflix and the company's ceo. he's dismissing the claim that his facebook post in july may have posted the online video stock price. at the time he mentioned how much netflix viewing had increased. the stock price rose 19% over a two day period. the power of a facebook post. >> you got watch what you post on facebook. that goes for everybody. >> yes. >> ashley morrison here in new york. have a good weekend. coming up next your friday morning weather and later royal recovery update. the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after a three day stay. umatoid arthritis means living with pain. it could also mean living with joint damage. help relieve the pain and stop the damage with humira, adalimumab. for many adults with moderate to severe ra
the tech stocks that led the stock market said it will move some of its mass computer production from china to the u.s. it accounts for less than 20% of apple's business. the rest is from ipod and ipad production. one factor may be that tiny labor costs are rising much faster than u.s. wages. and the securities and exchange commission is investigating netflix and the company's ceo. he's dismissing the claim that his facebook post in july may have posted the online video stock price. at the time...
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. >> sreenivasan: the typhoon is now swirling over the south china sea. it's expected to break up by the weekend. washington state is now the first state in the nation where recreational use of marijuana, by adults, is legal. the new law was approved by voters last month, and took effect at midnight. in seattle, about 100 people marked the occasion by smoking joints beneath the city's iconic space needle. technically, doing that in public remains against the law. marijuana is still illegal under federal law. but the justice department has not said if it will try to block the washington state law or a similar statute in colorado. same-sex marriage also became legal in washington state today, and in maryland. gay and lesbian couples in both states began picking up marriage licenses. those in washington state have to wait three days to be married. same-sex weddings in maryland will begin on january first. maine will legalize the practice on december 29. the three states are the first to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. in economic news, new jobless
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favorable to .rouwer's goes into effect l invest $100 million production from some mac computers from china to the u.s. and brazil sells one more marathon. the first -- for the first time macy's stores will open 48 hours straight the giving before christmas, shoppers extra time lift the macy's holiday sales. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about thatteak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on anyew volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. manning, fires in the end zone, touchdown. t against peyton manning. he and the broncos cruised to a wins thursday night. during the game he completed his career pass, joining only favre as the reach the mark. broncos play the ravens next week. out whether find the redskins
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we're better than china. meanwhile our energy costs are plummeting courtesy of the cleaner, cheaper fuel, natural gas. so cheap here it can be liquefied in the united states and sold overseas at much lower prices. potential exporter dominion later tonight. that business unimpeded by washington could be brimming with jobs. a lot of projects on hold, though, fiscal cliff. yep, the obstacle is washington, all because of the need to sock it to the 2%, not the 1.5% and the over $400,000 crowd, the 1%, or the need to fulfill the anti-tax pledge of allegiance many of our congressmen made to my college chum grover norquist. i thought bill gates and chief justice roberts were powerful. he makes the other guys look like crash dummies. we're on the cusp of an economic boom in this country. but we have politicians that would rather create a recession, a mandated economic collapse, let's create a bear market versus rising above. and guess what? these enemies of wealth and job creation may get their way and win. yes, to bo
we're better than china. meanwhile our energy costs are plummeting courtesy of the cleaner, cheaper fuel, natural gas. so cheap here it can be liquefied in the united states and sold overseas at much lower prices. potential exporter dominion later tonight. that business unimpeded by washington could be brimming with jobs. a lot of projects on hold, though, fiscal cliff. yep, the obstacle is washington, all because of the need to sock it to the 2%, not the 1.5% and the over $400,000 crowd, the...
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they moved all their manufacturing into china. they have been criticized for not creating more u.s. jobs. no word on where the apple manufacturing would take place. hurricane senate will play a big role in the numbers. nearly half of baby boomers with pensions say they anticipate retiring with debt other hand, primarily in mortgage. and expect to retire with student loans thadebt. some are better at managing their money than the average american. respondents reported higher annual incomes and cared less debt. at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king, bloomberg news, for wbal-tv 11 news. back to you. >> thank you. have a great weekend. >> 6:20. rgiii verses the ravens' d. keith mills will have a preview. >> here is a look at last night's winning maryland lottery numbers. >> now insta-weather plus and traffic pulse 11 together. >> good morning. sarah caldwell checking on your morning commute. let's bring you up to date. 95 from the white marsh area around 58 miles per hour. starting to build south of white marsh. you will start to see some brake lights. east on 70, no problems to
they moved all their manufacturing into china. they have been criticized for not creating more u.s. jobs. no word on where the apple manufacturing would take place. hurricane senate will play a big role in the numbers. nearly half of baby boomers with pensions say they anticipate retiring with debt other hand, primarily in mortgage. and expect to retire with student loans thadebt. some are better at managing their money than the average american. respondents reported higher annual incomes and...
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most notably in china. >> we've been working for years on doing more and more in the united states. next year we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> you can see the interview on "rock center with brian williams" at 10:00 right here on nbc 4. >>> speaking of apple, good news for t-mobile customers. t-mobile has announced it will start carrying apple products, including the ever popular iphone in 2013. they are the fourth and basically the last major carrier in the u.s. to start carrying apple. customers will be able to buy the apple ipad 2. >> are you going to get that? >> i already got my ipad. >> look at you. >> i guess i could get it with t-mobile, which i like to have options. so that's good. >>> let's make a deal. the item d.c. lawmakers might be willing to give up if the redskins return to the district. [ singing christmas carols in background ] aunt sally's singing again. it's a tradition, honey. [ singing christmas carols ] mmmm. [ female announcer ] make new traditions with pillsbury grands! cinnamon rolls. that's been wrapped in a flaky crust stuf
most notably in china. >> we've been working for years on doing more and more in the united states. next year we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> you can see the interview on "rock center with brian williams" at 10:00 right here on nbc 4. >>> speaking of apple, good news for t-mobile customers. t-mobile has announced it will start carrying apple products, including the ever popular iphone in 2013. they are the fourth and basically the...
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now have more than investors in china than silicon valley. why? because they believe the opportunities there are significant. if they have more people, there are more opportunities there than they are here. there are many examples like that. >> i would not say there have not been other countries to expand opportunities. there was not much chance to go back home, many of these nations, 25, 30 years ago. the flattening of the globe has happened. there is a free flow of capital and ideas at this point. but i will build more. i still would not trade our position for anywhere else in the world. we still have a stronger university based, particularly at the high end. we still have come up with our challenges, more access to capital markets. we still haven't of entrepreneurial system that, even though some complain about the level of regulation, is still " more robust. what we have to do is simply recognize, though, that not every id will be originally thought of in america. we used to have such an enormous advantage in every field that we had that abili
now have more than investors in china than silicon valley. why? because they believe the opportunities there are significant. if they have more people, there are more opportunities there than they are here. there are many examples like that. >> i would not say there have not been other countries to expand opportunities. there was not much chance to go back home, many of these nations, 25, 30 years ago. the flattening of the globe has happened. there is a free flow of capital and ideas at...
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over the years apple has become famous for making its products overseas, most notably, china. cook says it's time to make a change. >> this project i've talked about where we do a mac in the united states next year, this is a really good other step for us. the consumer electronics world was really never here. it's not a matter of bringing it back. it's a matter of starting it hire. >> you can see more of the interview on rock center with brian williams tonight at 10:00 right here on nbc 4 followed by news 4 at 11:00. >>> 6:16. president obama is speaking out against ongoing unrest in egypt. the white house reports the president has called egyptian president mohamed morsi to express concern about recent protests that have resulted in numerous deaths and injuries, calling the violence unacceptable. president obama did welcome morsi's calls for talks with opposition leaders. this comes after a violent week in cairo. on wednesday night, six were killed and nearly 700 injured in protests outside morsi's palace. >>> north korea may set off a long range rocket as early as this monday
over the years apple has become famous for making its products overseas, most notably, china. cook says it's time to make a change. >> this project i've talked about where we do a mac in the united states next year, this is a really good other step for us. the consumer electronics world was really never here. it's not a matter of bringing it back. it's a matter of starting it hire. >> you can see more of the interview on rock center with brian williams tonight at 10:00 right here on...
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i love apple products but i hate the fact they are made in china. now, tick tim cook is changing steve jobs' philosophy. he is bringing the company in a welcomed new direction, telling brian williams that starting next year they will manufacture one entire line of computers here in the u.s.a. $100 million worth. just anytime for me because now i can switch from my del laptop to a new macpro. how excited it will be to buy that macpro and see those magic words stamped on the back of it, "made in the u.s.a. "that's my parting shot for today, folks here we go into the weekend. enjoy it. kick back. make the most of it. get all of your christmas shopping done and come on back and see us right here on monday! have a good one. >> this is "the bill press show."
i love apple products but i hate the fact they are made in china. now, tick tim cook is changing steve jobs' philosophy. he is bringing the company in a welcomed new direction, telling brian williams that starting next year they will manufacture one entire line of computers here in the u.s.a. $100 million worth. just anytime for me because now i can switch from my del laptop to a new macpro. how excited it will be to buy that macpro and see those magic words stamped on the back of it,...
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the possibility of applying worldwide pressure against the syrian regime and three times russia and china have vetoed that effort. .. i mean, the regime ignores repeated calls from the international community to move. and so we firmly are of the opinion that more pressure within the united nations security council from mark faugh we firmly her of the opinion that more pressure within -- >> of events in the middle is continuing a moment with retiring senator joe lieberman of connecticut and republican john kyl of arizona. the talk about the iranian nuclear program televised discussion of elections in muslim countries and changes in their spring countries. and several members of congress talk about their perceptions of negotiations over what is called the fiscal cliff. also, don't forget to explore the history and literary culture of new york capital city of albany this weekend. book tv is on c-span2 and american history to be on c-span three. >> coming up at 7:00 c-span will be lot of discussion unskilled immigrants. virginia senator mark warner is sponsoring a bill to allow more highly sk
the possibility of applying worldwide pressure against the syrian regime and three times russia and china have vetoed that effort. .. i mean, the regime ignores repeated calls from the international community to move. and so we firmly are of the opinion that more pressure within the united nations security council from mark faugh we firmly her of the opinion that more pressure within -- >> of events in the middle is continuing a moment with retiring senator joe lieberman of connecticut...
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for other countries is dealing with this, the british, french, german, russia, china, so once all tend to view it as a proliferation problem. it tends to be about that issue very narrowly focused. so to kind of move the conversation, you have to figure a different architecture to address that. but the five plus one processors such as designed to do with the proliferation issue in the conversation is that it has to do with arantxa violations of the npt that a security council resolution suggests iran activity so forth and so on. there's two countries however that suggests the issue that this is not a proliferation issue that has to do with the character for the regime but those are for israel. the second one is iran who similarly suggested that this is nice control issue from the perspective of the west, but there really is an arms control is a multilateral icing regime. there were two that is in this particular who are not accepting the argument. the argument about nuclear infractions. so having said that, if you look at it historically, the united states has managed to negotiate succe
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now china is a big user. it is like any commodity. host: mr. sieminski, what are the major renewable energy source available to be developed in the eastern u.s., and how do we get them to get started? guest: the eastern united states energy resources, in the east coast of the u.s., we now have discovered there is a lot of natural gas. it basically starts in west virginia and runs up into pennsylvania and up into new york state. if we go back the last 100 years, pennsylvania and west virginia have been big producers of coal in the u.s. the oil industry started, the first well was drilled in pennsylvania back in 1859. the wind resources along the east coast, are being developed as well pro. probably the most exciting thing being developed in the east coast is a possibility there --uld b host: on the same question of what is out there, what is the u.s. energy independence status if all the offshore oil and anwar are included? guest: it goes to the answer that frank gave. all of the oil in the united states does not belong to the federal government
now china is a big user. it is like any commodity. host: mr. sieminski, what are the major renewable energy source available to be developed in the eastern u.s., and how do we get them to get started? guest: the eastern united states energy resources, in the east coast of the u.s., we now have discovered there is a lot of natural gas. it basically starts in west virginia and runs up into pennsylvania and up into new york state. if we go back the last 100 years, pennsylvania and west virginia...
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active income is if the have a factory in china and sell cars. they can delay paying u.s. taxes on that indefinitely. but the money comes from the rent, as so-called passive income, they have to pay taxes on that immediately. this provision says if your a bank -- you can be late paying your taxes. it is going to be considered active income. it is quite valuable to them. it is kind of a gray area. in 1986 when they did big tax reform, they said that is active income and we should tax that money. host: we have been talking with sam goldfarb from cq roll call. thank you very much. >> explores the history and literary culture of all money -- of albany. tonight on c-span, a senate debate on the fiscal cliff. shaun donovan discusses it. harry reid and mitch mcconnell when back-and-forth on fiscal cliff issues and a proposal to raise the debt ceiling. here is part of their exchange. >> yesterday afternoon, i came to the floor and offered president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations.
active income is if the have a factory in china and sell cars. they can delay paying u.s. taxes on that indefinitely. but the money comes from the rent, as so-called passive income, they have to pay taxes on that immediately. this provision says if your a bank -- you can be late paying your taxes. it is going to be considered active income. it is quite valuable to them. it is kind of a gray area. in 1986 when they did big tax reform, they said that is active income and we should tax that money....